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shefoundwonderland's avatar

is there some way we can read your thesis? I love learning about stories and their craft and i would love to see what else you have to say!

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Wren Petkov's avatar

Whoa thanks so much for reading! Yes there is! I ended up splitting it into 3 smaller essays, the first one is already up - https://storyfieldnotes.substack.com/p/how-hayao-miyazaki-builds-a-story?r=ck4s3

Part 2 should be out in the next few weeks:)

Thanks again for being here, it makes me so happy my writing can be useful to people!

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shefoundwonderland's avatar

can't wait to read the rest!

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Second Glance's avatar

Loved the inspiration, thank you for this essay!

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Wren Petkov's avatar

Thank you so much for reading!!

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David Rollins's avatar

I never thought of it in those terms before, but I love the limits on the world created by a theatre production. How it forces the story into a closed room or set of rooms.

It might be why my love of Doctor Who endures after decades. Despite the ability to travel through all of space and time, the TARDIS arrives in a closed world to begin the story and stays there until the story is complete.

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Wren Petkov's avatar

Whoa I never thought about it through the lens of a theater production!! So true, thanks for sharing your perspective!!

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redclover's avatar

Wren, thank you for sharing! Excellent read! Where's the cover art from?

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Wren Petkov's avatar

whoa I thought I credited it in the post but I must have accidentally deleted it while editing! It's a page from the "Welcome to the Ghost Tower" exhibition pamphlet at the Ghibli museum! I haven't been there (yet) but it was a great share from my japanese friend Kei:) You can find some more photos of it here, I really hope to get my hands on it one day (even if it's only in Japanese)!

https://halcyonrealms.com/illustration/ghost-tower-miyazaki-hayao-illustrations/

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Heaven Boles's avatar

Thank you for introducing these terms and ideas to me! This is an interesting way of thinking about story.

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Mackie's avatar

It's a beautiful read. I, myself have drawn inspiration from Miyazaki's works. I am in the process of going back to my creative musings - writing and drawing - as I delve into Substack. I'm scared and excited. 😅

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Wren Petkov's avatar

Whoa, good luck!

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Mahrukh Imam's avatar

This is such a fascinating read

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Wren Petkov's avatar

Thanks so much! Happy you liked it:)

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Grant Snider's avatar

Great piece!

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Wren Petkov's avatar

Thanks so much Grant, really appreciate it!

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Mariya Goltseva's avatar

Interesting world building technique! My favorite Ghibli movie is Whisper of the Heart. I suppose this would be a closed-room type of movie, as it takes place in their small town in a few repeat locations.

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Wren Petkov's avatar

I love Whisper of the Heart!! I didn't get to cover it in this essay, but there's a third type of story Miyazaki classifies later - circular narratives! It's stories that revolve around a single location, pushing out and then coming back to it - I think Whisper of the Heart falls into that category! Really curious to explore this one more in future work!

Thank you for reading! 🌟

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Mariya Goltseva's avatar

Happy to find a fellow Whisper of the Heart lover!! Circular narrative does sound more fitting, I would love to read about it if you ever write a piece on it!!

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Jake Parker's avatar

I’ve got a soft spot in my heart for Kushi-dango films like Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Last Crusade, but Temple of Doom is definitely a Misshitsu take on Indiana Jones and that film slaps in its own way.

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Wren Petkov's avatar

Ohhh I love that you're going for the Indiana Jones films right away!! I LOVE Raiders and The Last Crusade, I have yet to see Temple of Doom - I've heard Ke Huy Quan is great in it!

Spielberg is soo good at building travel narratives - Tintin might be my favorite example of this, but I think most of his films are like Kushi-Dangos. Maybe why some people love them and others find them exhausting? I know my friend is always complaining Spielberg films don't sit still haha

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Jake Parker's avatar

"Spielberg films don't sit still" haha, I like that.

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Willow Stonebeck's avatar

Fascinating way to think about how to frame stories. I’ve been skewering since the jump, apparently. But now I’m tempted to try something closed room… hmm 👀

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Wren Petkov's avatar

Whoa that's awesome!! I'm the same! I often jump between locations too quickly, I want to try a drama in a closed room to practice Staging/Blocking!

Please update me when you make your next story, I'd be so curious to hear how it turns out! Good luck and thanks for reading! 🌟

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Second Glance's avatar

So interesting and insightful! Can‘t wait for part 3!

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Rerguido's avatar

I really enjoyed the article, thank you so much! It got me thinking about my favorite stories, and I realized that most of them are closed-room narratives, not just in films, but also in TV shows (Parks & Rec or The Office are clear examples of closed-room storytelling). However, when I thought about The Nightmare Before Christmas, I wasn’t sure how to classify it. There’s a moment when the characters leave their original town for another one, but only temporarily, before returning. In that case, what do you think its narrative would be?

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Robyn S's avatar

This reminds me of another concept in world building in which the story on the page is compared to a spotlight on a stage. The job of the author is to describe the action in setting within the spotlight in order to convince the reader that action and setting exist on the rest of the stage. It occurs to me that may be closed. Room settings are convincing the reader the rest of the metaphorical stage exists because it shows so much of that spotlight.

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Ankush Cholia's avatar

I am glad that I stumbled upon this, the both ideas of world building that you discussed are new and fascinating to me, they always are there but hard to notice for me. Today I learned something new.

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genie’s writing room 🥀's avatar

I love this, the spaces are “closed” but they are so rich in detail. Also, Miyazaki knows how to make the mundane seem magical - like a bus stop or a train ride.

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